How many shots - Barnes Pneumatic

How Many Shots?

I've laced the site with actual testing data. The technical explanations (which determine the numbers) are everywhere on the site. I won't bore you here. These are just the numbers many folks ask for. I hope they illustrate what I explain elsewhere.

I was talking to a friend on the phone this morning. He's been in business management (running teams of people) for many years. We got to talking about the difficulty of communicating complex information. It's a simple fact that, currently; you have about 30 seconds to make your point - by word or text, before the other guy is ready to move on. This isn't a snide remark ... this is current business principle which they adhere to. It's why manufacturer's advertising shouts little clipped bits of info. at you - even though they don't tell you the realistic (or complete) story. I always take the time to explain the story, but I know it's burdensome to read thru.

Enormous efforts are spent attempting to jam ridiculous amounts of information into one quickly read paragraph. This is the ... "We have to do 1,500 of these today" society in which we live. It's very difficult to distill handcrafted complexity into bite sized bits of information that convey anything of actual value. This is the reason things are covered a number of times on the site and, (I know) some surely feel that I insist upon writing an entire page when they just want a simple number.

I'm gonna post some of those simple numbers here. It's the shots per fill, psi, fps, grains, fpe stuff that everybody wants quoted. I grabbed them from a couple of shop ledgers. These are actual facts taken from actual shop test data. (No Dolphins were harmed in the collection of this information ... ;?)

ACTUAL DATA from a variety of Barnes models ... taken from the shop Barnes ledgers. These were NOT usually the final configuration delivered . You will note (especially where the same rifle was tested in a variety of configurations) that no simple shot # / psi fill really tells the story. Which version would you quote in the caption under a pic of each model for the simple answer?

There are a few of the higher velocity numbers tossed in for comparison ... note they do NOT yield the highest energy figures. I don't extensively test for highest fps numbers because (while I can easily produce them) they don't accomplish anything useful. They're not usually the most economical on air, the most accurate, or the most powerful alternatives.

From 3/5/98 Ranger 97/.177

2,200 psi fill

RWS 9.5 grain WC

59 shots - approx. 750 fps ... approx. 12 fpe

Rifle weighed about 7 lb.

From 12-01-03 Chaparral 25 Pistol Carbine

3,000 psi fill

#3 buck shot ball

40 shots - 16-19 fpe

Pistol 2 1/2 lbs.

Carbine format with ball magazine 5lb

From 3-11-03 Ranger 97 /.177 (in for service)

2,000 psi fill

10.5 Premiers

45 shots @850 fps

Rifle weighed about 6 lbs.

From 5-20-02 Chameleon .177 format

2,300 psi fill

10.5 premiers

35 shots @500-550 fps

Rifle - 4 1/2" lbs.

From 5-30-02 Ranger 32 Delta 1" tube version

2,625 psi fill

32 ball - 49 grains

6 shots @920 fps

rifle ... approx. 7-8 lbs.

From 3-19-02 Ranger 32 Delta Mag.

2,800 psi fill (light power setting)

62 grains

20 shots @ 930 fps

2,650 psi fill

32 ball @ 1135 fps

2,650 psi fill

32 ball 4 shots 1047-1096 fps

2,650 psi fill

115 grains @ 890 fps = 202.31 fpe

From 6-6-00 44 Bison (400+fpe demonstrated)

2,750 fill

44 ball @ 1,000 fps = 270.9 fpe

From 12-22-99 56 Bison (655+ fpe demonstrated)

3,250 psi fill

268 grain @ 912 fps = 495.08 fpe

From 7-21-99 45 Bison (530+ fpe demonstrated)

2,600 psi fill

45 ball @ 1029 fpe = 339.58 fpe

From 5-31-02 Chameleon 32 format

2,600 psi fill

64 grains

10 shots Avg. 751 fps

From 4-23-02 Ranger 2002 25 caliber

2,800 psi fill

41.3 grain - 8-10 shots @ 910 fps = 76 fpe

62 grain - 5-8 shots @ 830 fps = 95 fpe

2,500 psi fill (10-24-04 testing)

Beeman Pellet Ram Point

24 shots approx. 850-930 fps

2,750 psi fill (11-06-01)

Diana pellet 1171 fps

#3 buck shot ball 1105 fps

From 9-00 XXV Royale

3,000 psi

Dianas @ 1084 fps = 52.19 fpe

Kodiaks @ 977 fps = 66.14 fpe

From 8-28-01 Prairie II 32

2,600 psi fill

100 grains

8 shots @ approx. 830 fps

61 grains

10 shots @ approx. 970 fps

From 7-05-01 Renegade 32

2,650 psi fill

65 grains

5 shots @ 820-920 fps

Ball goes supersonic

From 1-10-01 Prairie Classic 32

3,000 psi fill

100 grains

47 shots 400-760 fps

From 8-30-01 Prairie II 32

2,750 psi fill

62 grains

10 shots @ 970 fps

2,650 psi fill

49.5 grain ball @ 1063 fps on med. power

From 7-10-01 Tundra 45 Magnum (low power)

2,400 psi fill

145 grn.

10 shots @760 fps

From 1-10-02 Priarie 32 Classic

2,800 psi fill

100 grains

10 shots @ 830 fps

2,800 psi fill (1-13-01)

54 grains @ 1085 fps = 141.19 fpe

2,800 psi fill

165.5 grains @ 801 fps = 235.84 fpe

From 3-13-01 Tundra 45 (low power)

2,850 psi

200 grains

23 shots @ 613 avg. = 166.9 fpe

From 2-15-01

3,000 psi fill

200 grains

9 shots approx. 650-750 fps

From 2-09-01

3,100 psi fill

144.4 ball

11 shots approx. 675-820 fps

3,200 psi fill

433 grains @ 726 fps = 506.89 fpe

3,000 psi fill

156 grain @ 977 fps = 330.7 fpe

This gives a bit of a view of the topic. It's all relative to the set-up of the rifle, the particular slug you shoot, and many other things. I don't post this information much, because it's so easily misleading. The same rifle which can shoot a slug supersonic, can often be set up to shoot many, many shots slower. But not both. Once you post figures for a 9.5 grain pellet, folks ask how that changes with a 10.5 grain pellet. It just gets to be an infinite amount of information to attempt to collect and distribute without confusion.

The simple way (as simple as it gets) is to tell me what you want to do with your rifle, and I'll build you my best for the purpose. When it needs air, you fill it.

Thanks - Enjoy.

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